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	<title>Comments on: Michael Harrington and the Twilight of Capitalism</title>
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		<title>By: Andy Feeney</title>
		<link>http://theactivist.org/blog/michael-harrington-and-the-twilight-of-capitalism/comment-page-1#comment-84998</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Feeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 02:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read several of Harrington&#039;s books long ago, so I&#039;m not sure it was &quot;Twilight of Capitalism&quot; in which this piece of Harrington&#039;s analysis appeared.  But although he was a firm advocate of democratic socialism and a democratic path to socialism, in at least one of his later books he did address some of the key pitfalls that even a well-organized social democratic movement is likely to face in trying to make a transition from capitalism to real socialism.

One potential trap that even a large and powerful social democratic party can face, Harrington warned, is getting elected to office and discovering that it has to &quot;administer capitalism.&quot;   He noted that if a Social Democratic party in power hopes to deliver prosperity to its supporters, it can&#039;t risk antagonizing the largest corporations too much, or hurting their profitability too severely, because they consequently won&#039;t invest or maintain production, and recession and / or mass unemployment may result.    Thus undercutting the appeal of the socialist party to its own supporters, of course.

Harrington notes in passing  -- I think it&#039;s in &quot;Twilight&quot; -- that many liberal and even moderate Americans reacted with scorn in the 1950s when General Motors executive Charles Willson, named Secretary of Defense by President Eisenhower, stated that &quot;What&#039;s good for General Motors is good for America.&quot;  

But the dilemma for even the best democratic socialist president, Harrington thought, was that what&#039;s bad for General Motors is likely to be bad for America.   Even when GM&#039;s policies are basically destructive, it will be risk for a democratically elected leftist party to challenge those policies too dramatically or too abruptly, for fear that GM will simply pull the rug out from under national prosperity.  

Thus &quot;socialist&quot; politicians can be trapped into pursuing a basically capitalist economic agenda and undercutting their own politics, as Harrington observed.   In writing this, I think he intuited what many European social democratic parties would end up being forced to in the 1980s and 1990s, to their loss.

Harrington was a good enough Marxist to identify some of these painful contradictions for the democratic left, but I don&#039;t remember him coming up with attractive solutions to them.  But in writing this, am I misremembering what &quot;Twilight of Capitalism&quot; says?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read several of Harrington&#8217;s books long ago, so I&#8217;m not sure it was &#8220;Twilight of Capitalism&#8221; in which this piece of Harrington&#8217;s analysis appeared.  But although he was a firm advocate of democratic socialism and a democratic path to socialism, in at least one of his later books he did address some of the key pitfalls that even a well-organized social democratic movement is likely to face in trying to make a transition from capitalism to real socialism.</p>
<p>One potential trap that even a large and powerful social democratic party can face, Harrington warned, is getting elected to office and discovering that it has to &#8220;administer capitalism.&#8221;   He noted that if a Social Democratic party in power hopes to deliver prosperity to its supporters, it can&#8217;t risk antagonizing the largest corporations too much, or hurting their profitability too severely, because they consequently won&#8217;t invest or maintain production, and recession and / or mass unemployment may result.    Thus undercutting the appeal of the socialist party to its own supporters, of course.</p>
<p>Harrington notes in passing  &#8212; I think it&#8217;s in &#8220;Twilight&#8221; &#8212; that many liberal and even moderate Americans reacted with scorn in the 1950s when General Motors executive Charles Willson, named Secretary of Defense by President Eisenhower, stated that &#8220;What&#8217;s good for General Motors is good for America.&#8221;  </p>
<p>But the dilemma for even the best democratic socialist president, Harrington thought, was that what&#8217;s bad for General Motors is likely to be bad for America.   Even when GM&#8217;s policies are basically destructive, it will be risk for a democratically elected leftist party to challenge those policies too dramatically or too abruptly, for fear that GM will simply pull the rug out from under national prosperity.  </p>
<p>Thus &#8220;socialist&#8221; politicians can be trapped into pursuing a basically capitalist economic agenda and undercutting their own politics, as Harrington observed.   In writing this, I think he intuited what many European social democratic parties would end up being forced to in the 1980s and 1990s, to their loss.</p>
<p>Harrington was a good enough Marxist to identify some of these painful contradictions for the democratic left, but I don&#8217;t remember him coming up with attractive solutions to them.  But in writing this, am I misremembering what &#8220;Twilight of Capitalism&#8221; says?</p>
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		<title>By: Bhaskar Sunkara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bhaskar Sunkara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that capitalism is still a dynamic force and isn&#039;t nearing a natural demise.  And just because the system is prone to crisis due to its inherent contradictions doesn&#039;t mean that the Left will benefit from it.  We need only look at the success of the isolationist and psuedo-fascist Right in Europe.

Rebuilding class identification and struggle is the longterm task, but the question has to be made in light of the continued asocial socialization of capitalism whether the traditional union is still the ideal level of organization and whether or not there is an alternative in district based organization and the alliance between both the employed and unemployed segments of the working class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that capitalism is still a dynamic force and isn&#8217;t nearing a natural demise.  And just because the system is prone to crisis due to its inherent contradictions doesn&#8217;t mean that the Left will benefit from it.  We need only look at the success of the isolationist and psuedo-fascist Right in Europe.</p>
<p>Rebuilding class identification and struggle is the longterm task, but the question has to be made in light of the continued asocial socialization of capitalism whether the traditional union is still the ideal level of organization and whether or not there is an alternative in district based organization and the alliance between both the employed and unemployed segments of the working class.</p>
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		<title>By: David Duhalde</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Duhalde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad that Jason finally got to respond to Berman&#039;s piece that so bothered him.  It&#039;s good to clarify that Harrington thought capitalism was demising because of its contradictions, not its ability to produce wealth or adapt.  That is a debatable point for some.

It&#039;s important to note the creation of Community Labor United.  I am a big fan of Jobs with Justice.  What do they have to do with this article?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad that Jason finally got to respond to Berman&#8217;s piece that so bothered him.  It&#8217;s good to clarify that Harrington thought capitalism was demising because of its contradictions, not its ability to produce wealth or adapt.  That is a debatable point for some.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to note the creation of Community Labor United.  I am a big fan of Jobs with Justice.  What do they have to do with this article?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David -- I wasn&#039;t really aiming my barb at &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt;. And yeah, I should&#039;ve noticed the exact time of your post. Sorry. 

Bhaskar -- I&#039;m glad JwJ exists. (JwJ has been around for 20 years now -- does that count as &quot;recent&quot;?) I&#039;m not that expert on it, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8212; I wasn&#8217;t really aiming my barb at <em>you</em>. And yeah, I should&#8217;ve noticed the exact time of your post. Sorry. </p>
<p>Bhaskar &#8212; I&#8217;m glad JwJ exists. (JwJ has been around for 20 years now &#8212; does that count as &#8220;recent&#8221;?) I&#8217;m not that expert on it, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhaskar Sunkara</title>
		<link>http://theactivist.org/blog/michael-harrington-and-the-twilight-of-capitalism/comment-page-1#comment-49507</link>
		<dc:creator>Bhaskar Sunkara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Chris.  I would love to hear Jason&#039;s thoughts on the relatively recent emergence of Jobs with Justice on the national progressive scene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Chris.  I would love to hear Jason&#8217;s thoughts on the relatively recent emergence of Jobs with Justice on the national progressive scene.</p>
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		<title>By: David Duhalde</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Duhalde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason - I posted that like 30 seconds after you wrote your part.  Clearly we were writing at the same time - just check the hour next to our name.  Sheesh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason &#8211; I posted that like 30 seconds after you wrote your part.  Clearly we were writing at the same time &#8211; just check the hour next to our name.  Sheesh!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Maisano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Maisano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The topic here is Harrington&#039;s analysis of capitalism and socialist strategy. Jason put work into writing a good essay, so let&#039;s try to respect him and stick to his subject. I&#039;m sure someone will have something to say about Harrington and Vietnam in a subsequent post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The topic here is Harrington&#8217;s analysis of capitalism and socialist strategy. Jason put work into writing a good essay, so let&#8217;s try to respect him and stick to his subject. I&#8217;m sure someone will have something to say about Harrington and Vietnam in a subsequent post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David -- like I just said, it wasn&#039;t that Harrington personally supported the war. It was that he was unwilling -- until the early 70s! -- to break with those who did. 

I have no desire to defend any of Harrington&#039;s political decisions in the &#039;60s, but I&#039;d sooner criticize him for the positions he actually held than the ones that some ignorantly &lt;em&gt;think&lt;/em&gt; he held.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8212; like I just said, it wasn&#8217;t that Harrington personally supported the war. It was that he was unwilling &#8212; until the early 70s! &#8212; to break with those who did. </p>
<p>I have no desire to defend any of Harrington&#8217;s political decisions in the &#8217;60s, but I&#8217;d sooner criticize him for the positions he actually held than the ones that some ignorantly <em>think</em> he held.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone I&#039;ve met in the DSA leadership and grassroots acknowledges that fact about Harrington and has criticized him for it.  No one is hiding his support of the Vietnam war (which was still more &quot;Negotiate Now&quot; than bomb Hanoi).  Nor do we simply reduce him to one crappy position.

I don&#039;t really know Louis&#039; politics, but most people who usher in the &quot;Harrington the hawk&quot; challenge have crappy authoritarian politics themselves.  Takes one to know one, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone I&#8217;ve met in the DSA leadership and grassroots acknowledges that fact about Harrington and has criticized him for it.  No one is hiding his support of the Vietnam war (which was still more &#8220;Negotiate Now&#8221; than bomb Hanoi).  Nor do we simply reduce him to one crappy position.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really know Louis&#8217; politics, but most people who usher in the &#8220;Harrington the hawk&#8221; challenge have crappy authoritarian politics themselves.  Takes one to know one, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louis Proyect is wrong. Harrington never supported the war. As Isserman writes, &quot;Contrary to the legends that would later spread on the Left, Michael opposed the war, and from its beginning.&quot; Harrington&#039;s main problem -- his biggest failing in the 1960s, which made him an irrelevancy during the &#039;60s mass radicalization -- was his unwillingness to break his alliance with the Socialist Party &quot;Shachtmanites&quot; who really did support the war. Harrington really should have left the rightward-moving SP in the &#039;60s (as did Hal Draper, Julius and Phyllis Jacobson, Bogdan Denitch, Debbie Meier, various others). He waited far, far too long. 

All of this is outlined in Isserman&#039;s biography. I suggest reading it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louis Proyect is wrong. Harrington never supported the war. As Isserman writes, &#8220;Contrary to the legends that would later spread on the Left, Michael opposed the war, and from its beginning.&#8221; Harrington&#8217;s main problem &#8212; his biggest failing in the 1960s, which made him an irrelevancy during the &#8217;60s mass radicalization &#8212; was his unwillingness to break his alliance with the Socialist Party &#8220;Shachtmanites&#8221; who really did support the war. Harrington really should have left the rightward-moving SP in the &#8217;60s (as did Hal Draper, Julius and Phyllis Jacobson, Bogdan Denitch, Debbie Meier, various others). He waited far, far too long. </p>
<p>All of this is outlined in Isserman&#8217;s biography. I suggest reading it.</p>
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