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		<title>By: Lindsay Schutz</title>
		<link>http://theactivist.org/blog/reflections-on-a-youtube-video/comment-page-1#comment-74410</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay Schutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, to all you  teabaggers who want to get rid of &quot;Socialism&quot; --
Are you ready to pay for your own garbage removal, water/sewage, schools for your children ( now that&#039;s a scary thought!), build your own roads, hire your own police/fire department, etc? Better yet, how many of you want to give up your  monthly Social Security and Medicare (if you are eligible for both), since these are all given to you by our &quot;Socialist&quot; government?
*crickets*
The stupidity of these people never ceases to amuse me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, to all you  teabaggers who want to get rid of &#8220;Socialism&#8221; &#8211;<br />
Are you ready to pay for your own garbage removal, water/sewage, schools for your children ( now that&#8217;s a scary thought!), build your own roads, hire your own police/fire department, etc? Better yet, how many of you want to give up your  monthly Social Security and Medicare (if you are eligible for both), since these are all given to you by our &#8220;Socialist&#8221; government?<br />
*crickets*<br />
The stupidity of these people never ceases to amuse me.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay Schutz</title>
		<link>http://theactivist.org/blog/reflections-on-a-youtube-video/comment-page-1#comment-74409</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay Schutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, these people are effin stupid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, these people are effin stupid!</p>
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		<title>By: Bhaskar Sunkara</title>
		<link>http://theactivist.org/blog/reflections-on-a-youtube-video/comment-page-1#comment-74294</link>
		<dc:creator>Bhaskar Sunkara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t fear &quot;fascism&quot; at all and I think the oppositional populist rhetoric will morph into run of the mill right-neoliberalism if ever in power, but what you say is right--- we have to out organize them.  The weakest politics we can fall into is the &quot;fear of fear&quot; (their fear).  It&#039;s a defensive, reactive politics that will keep us wedded to the lesser-evils in the center. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t fear &#8220;fascism&#8221; at all and I think the oppositional populist rhetoric will morph into run of the mill right-neoliberalism if ever in power, but what you say is right&#8212; we have to out organize them.  The weakest politics we can fall into is the &#8220;fear of fear&#8221; (their fear).  It&#8217;s a defensive, reactive politics that will keep us wedded to the lesser-evils in the center.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhaskar</title>
		<link>http://theactivist.org/blog/reflections-on-a-youtube-video/comment-page-1#comment-74292</link>
		<dc:creator>Bhaskar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, we should be engaging with everyone, but it&#039;s not like the far left hasn&#039;t been trying to do these sorts of things for the last century or so.  We haven&#039;t failed for lack of effort.  At the moment I think the first steps would be to unite the left that can be united as leftists and form the sort of organization / proto-party that Bill Fletcher argued for at the end of his speech at the DSA convention (just got a chance to watch it a minute ago).   From there the natural base for socialists would be politicizing students on campuses and introducing the idea of the necessity of structural change to the large liberal base.  

I assume here that Fletcher is talking about the need for a transparent and democratic, but &lt;em&gt;centralized&lt;/em&gt; socialist organization that would form the core of a new oppositional movement (not 3rd party electoral venture).  The enthusiasm behind DSOC/DSA during the early years was that in a left prone to fragmenting into sects it was actually uniting and growing in size and influence.  With our current balance of forces a lot of the activity or agitation we&#039;re doing today (as socialists and not just as generic progressives working on important single-issues) is marginal.  We are dealing with the strongest ruling class in human history and we are operating in the nerve-center of capital.  Such a reality necessitates some radical thinking and solutions if the objective is a shot at contesting these powerful and dangerous movements and not just keeping up &quot;the good fight.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, we should be engaging with everyone, but it&#8217;s not like the far left hasn&#8217;t been trying to do these sorts of things for the last century or so.  We haven&#8217;t failed for lack of effort.  At the moment I think the first steps would be to unite the left that can be united as leftists and form the sort of organization / proto-party that Bill Fletcher argued for at the end of his speech at the DSA convention (just got a chance to watch it a minute ago).   From there the natural base for socialists would be politicizing students on campuses and introducing the idea of the necessity of structural change to the large liberal base.  </p>
<p>I assume here that Fletcher is talking about the need for a transparent and democratic, but <em>centralized</em> socialist organization that would form the core of a new oppositional movement (not 3rd party electoral venture).  The enthusiasm behind DSOC/DSA during the early years was that in a left prone to fragmenting into sects it was actually uniting and growing in size and influence.  With our current balance of forces a lot of the activity or agitation we&#8217;re doing today (as socialists and not just as generic progressives working on important single-issues) is marginal.  We are dealing with the strongest ruling class in human history and we are operating in the nerve-center of capital.  Such a reality necessitates some radical thinking and solutions if the objective is a shot at contesting these powerful and dangerous movements and not just keeping up &#8220;the good fight.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb Murphy</title>
		<link>http://theactivist.org/blog/reflections-on-a-youtube-video/comment-page-1#comment-74290</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is an indictment of the educational system. That is a hard video to watch. I agree with Chris though I have known a lot of &quot;liberals&quot; who have a hard time articulating policies. I think the idea of gawking and pointing at the unwashed un-educated is as Bhashkar put it &quot;liberals as corporatist technocrats… would-be Philosopher Kings trying to impose from above on the polity,&quot; was right on. We should be engaging these people using populist language and showing them how they are being essentially scammed by a capitalist system that makes money of their backs. Obviously easier said than done but I agree engagement is the proper response not ridicule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is an indictment of the educational system. That is a hard video to watch. I agree with Chris though I have known a lot of &#8220;liberals&#8221; who have a hard time articulating policies. I think the idea of gawking and pointing at the unwashed un-educated is as Bhashkar put it &#8220;liberals as corporatist technocrats… would-be Philosopher Kings trying to impose from above on the polity,&#8221; was right on. We should be engaging these people using populist language and showing them how they are being essentially scammed by a capitalist system that makes money of their backs. Obviously easier said than done but I agree engagement is the proper response not ridicule.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Maisano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Maisano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikers. An indictment of the American public education system if there ever was one. To be fair though, I&#039;m sure you would have found a lot of confused and inarticulate people at Obama rallies last year that could only recite campaign slogans and had no idea what his actual policy proposals were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikers. An indictment of the American public education system if there ever was one. To be fair though, I&#8217;m sure you would have found a lot of confused and inarticulate people at Obama rallies last year that could only recite campaign slogans and had no idea what his actual policy proposals were.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Monahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Monahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great socialist thinker Karl Polanyi on the Fascist movement of the 1930s in the Great Transformation (1944):

&quot;...there was a striking lack of relationship between its material and numerical strength and its political effectiveness.  The very term &#039;movement&#039; was misleading since it implied some kind of enrolment or personal participation of large numbers.  If anything was characteristic of fascism, it was its independence of such popular manifestations.  Though usually aiming at a mass following, its potential strength was reckoned not by the numbers of its adherents but by the influence of the persons in high position whose good will the fascist leaders posessed, and whose influence in the community could be counted upon to shelter them from the consequences of an abortive revolt, thus taking the risks out of revolution.

A country approaching the fascist phase showed symptoms among which the existence of a fascist movement proper was not necessarily one.  At least as important signs were the spread of irrationalistic philosophies, racialist aesthetics, anticapitalist demagogy, heterodox currency views, criticism of the party system, widespread disparagement of the &#039;regime,&#039; or whatever was the name given to the existing democratic setup... Hitler was eventually put in power by the feudalist clique around President Hindenburg, just as Mussolini and Primo de Rivera were ushered into office by their respective sovereigns.  Yet Hitler had a vast movement to support him; Mussolini had a small one; Primo de Rivera had none.  In no case was an actual revolution against constituted authority launched; fascist tactics were invariable those of a sham rebellion arranged with the tacit approval of the authorities who pretended to have been overwhelmed by force.&quot;

This new Palin-led anti-establishment Teabagger strain in the Republican Party reminds me creepily of the spontaneous rise of the fascist movement in the wake of the Great Depression.  We can&#039;t afford to give them an inch.  As Bill Fletcher Jr. said at this year&#039;s Democratic Socialists of America convention, &quot;They... are... dangerous!&quot;  It&#039;s easy for college kids to laugh at how detached from reality they seem, but this movement is really frickin dangerous, and it is absolutely imperative that the democratic Left of this country effectively out-organize them in the years ahead.

The backlash against the inherent failures of capitalism can take very ugly forms.  It&#039;s up to us to guide popular outrage at the system in a constructive direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great socialist thinker Karl Polanyi on the Fascist movement of the 1930s in the Great Transformation (1944):</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;there was a striking lack of relationship between its material and numerical strength and its political effectiveness.  The very term &#8216;movement&#8217; was misleading since it implied some kind of enrolment or personal participation of large numbers.  If anything was characteristic of fascism, it was its independence of such popular manifestations.  Though usually aiming at a mass following, its potential strength was reckoned not by the numbers of its adherents but by the influence of the persons in high position whose good will the fascist leaders posessed, and whose influence in the community could be counted upon to shelter them from the consequences of an abortive revolt, thus taking the risks out of revolution.</p>
<p>A country approaching the fascist phase showed symptoms among which the existence of a fascist movement proper was not necessarily one.  At least as important signs were the spread of irrationalistic philosophies, racialist aesthetics, anticapitalist demagogy, heterodox currency views, criticism of the party system, widespread disparagement of the &#8216;regime,&#8217; or whatever was the name given to the existing democratic setup&#8230; Hitler was eventually put in power by the feudalist clique around President Hindenburg, just as Mussolini and Primo de Rivera were ushered into office by their respective sovereigns.  Yet Hitler had a vast movement to support him; Mussolini had a small one; Primo de Rivera had none.  In no case was an actual revolution against constituted authority launched; fascist tactics were invariable those of a sham rebellion arranged with the tacit approval of the authorities who pretended to have been overwhelmed by force.&#8221;</p>
<p>This new Palin-led anti-establishment Teabagger strain in the Republican Party reminds me creepily of the spontaneous rise of the fascist movement in the wake of the Great Depression.  We can&#8217;t afford to give them an inch.  As Bill Fletcher Jr. said at this year&#8217;s Democratic Socialists of America convention, &#8220;They&#8230; are&#8230; dangerous!&#8221;  It&#8217;s easy for college kids to laugh at how detached from reality they seem, but this movement is really frickin dangerous, and it is absolutely imperative that the democratic Left of this country effectively out-organize them in the years ahead.</p>
<p>The backlash against the inherent failures of capitalism can take very ugly forms.  It&#8217;s up to us to guide popular outrage at the system in a constructive direction.</p>
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